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	<title>General :: RE: One less Soarer on the roads...</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=14&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;soramad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:17 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;IdleRich Said:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Are they really saying that each successive year, the value of the soarer comes down by approx £570???&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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 &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/happyrolleyes.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Rolling Eyes&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; Ok if that is what they are saying then lets put the purchase price of a soarer at say £30,000.00 then deduct the £570.00 a year over 20 years = £11,400.00 then the current value is £18,600.00 I just do'nt think that they would pay that but it would be interesting to see what would happen if you used their formula as a starting repayment price. &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/winka.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;  &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/laugh1.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3390&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;paul bristol uk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:53 am (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Seems like it. Frankly its just another load of tosh from the insurance company to get out of their commitment to you. I think your policy will say &quot;market value&quot; somewhere. So back to what I said in the previous post. You really are going to have to point out the market value to them. Name and shame them so that none of the rest of us use them!
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Not the post I was going to put up but I don't know the forum policy  on excessive swearing!
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3038&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;nellys400sc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:39 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;soramad Said:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/happyrolleyes.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Rolling Eyes&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;  er neil its a jap car only event so I would think a GTO would qualify unless its a rebadged rover &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/biggrin.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Very Happy&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;. 
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 &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Cool&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; Nice to see the insurance brokers I use are one of the sponsors, I have had good no hassle service through them for many years.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt; &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/cry3.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Crying or Very sad&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; sorry mike just me being a donut and no its not a rebadged rover &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/laugh1.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; would never have one of those things &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/laugh1.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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	<title>General :: RE: One less Soarer on the roads...</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2245&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;IdleRich&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:06 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Are they really saying that each successive year, the value of the soarer comes down by approx £570???
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3390&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;paul bristol uk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:27 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Not been on the forum recently as I am laid up in bed with a UTI. This attitude by insurance companies make me bloody sick!!! I run two Prelude Forums and we get this all the time. The best way to fight this is tell them to stick their offer where the sun don't shine. Next scour all the adverts for  similar cars in  similar conditions get all the pictures and details you can and most of all prices.Them tell them what you want to put you back into the same position you were in pre accident. I bet they 
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will come back with an improved offer, reject that as well until you are happy with the payout.Remember the first one to blink looses. I wish you all the best with this but be prepaired for them to try to wear you down!
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	<title>General :: RE: Hopefully that's me sorted...</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2245&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;IdleRich&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:35 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Yup, I know that's what you meant, Mike, about the water pump, thanks.
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But I'm broke (I know I know, you could argue that I'll be even broker in the long-run if I don't take the opp now to replace it), but I'm just gonna have to take that chance...
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The dealer assures me the car is in top condition, and the work is taking place tomorrow anyhoo.
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I'm such a snob ...it has Toyota 'branding', but I do miss my Lexus decals / logos from my first 2 soarers......  &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/biggrin.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Very Happy&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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	<title>General :: RE: Hopefully that's me sorted...</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=14&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;soramad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:00 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Just to clarify why I mentioned the water pump renewal, all the bits that come off for the timing belt renewal has to come off for the water pump so to do it at the same time saves a bundle of money in labour time.
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Regarding the english reading console buttons, these are stick on, (I have them on my car) consequently at night the light does not show through, nice in daylight though. 
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I have thought about getting another set cutting the tops of the buttons off replace with thin perspex and stick the new labels on, then they would light up nicely
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	<title>General :: RE: One less Soarer on the roads...</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2245&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;IdleRich&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:14 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Formally complained about the valuation on my written-off soarer.
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The insurance audit person called today. During the discussion he said that the original valuer had thought the car was a 1992 model, and not 1991 (which it is).
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As a consequence of this, the orig valuation was mistaken, and he over-valued it by £570, compared to the equivalent 1991.
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Surely this must be too much of a difference between successive years on a 20-year-old or so car?!
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So he said if I take it to the ombudsman, the insurance company will win the case, and I'll have to settle for the 1991 valuation.
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	<title>General :: RE: Hopefully that's me sorted...</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2245&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;IdleRich&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:12 am (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Not sure I'll have time to get all the other parts in time before next week, but thanks for the tips! Maybe that'll be a job next time I take it along to Hypertech.
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One thing the car has - that I've not seen before - is the console buttons in English. Looks very strange.
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The dealer also said that the guy who traded it in was heartbroken (hope it's not anyone on this site!) cos he just did not want to sell it (who can blame him).
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I just hope it's a good 'un. I need the tranquility!
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3038&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;nellys400sc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:53 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;congratulations on your purchase good to see you have made the right choice &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/winka.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; as mike said get the pumpo done along with the belt and then hopefully many years of trouble free motoring
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	<title>General :: RE: One less Soarer on the roads...</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3038&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;nellys400sc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:49 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;temple Said:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Sorry to hear about the write-offs guys.  Those photos look very much like how my first Soarer came to an end (it was white though) and my airbag didn't deploy either.  Once the rear end goes, you need to be a rally driver to keep it on the road.  I did a lot of soul searching after that and decided to get another, I don't regret it at all.  I'd definitely go for a 4 litre.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;it would only be a v8 for me again its the only one to have &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/laugh1.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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	<title>General :: RE: Hopefully that's me sorted...</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=14&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;soramad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:36 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Cool&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; Well done steve I sincerely hope you have better luck with this one, &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/images/smiles/smilie2.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Smile&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;  at least already having owned one you know what to look for now, also it might be a good idea to have a new water pump fitted while the cam belt is being done and if you can afford too, new distributer caps and rotor arms.
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:27 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;In which case go and take them back if they do'nt figure in the value of the car.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2245&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;IdleRich&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Been constantly searching the classifieds for the last 2 weeks or so, with big dilemma on whether to get another TT, another V8 or try the 3.0 litre for the first time.  Had my eye on a TT in Liverpool and new malden (both on ebay), and a 3.0 litre in Manchester and also one from Rich.  Asked about a couple of other V8s as well...
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Anyway, I've bought myself tonite a replacement V8 (31) from a dealer in Sunderland. It's done approx 70,000 miles (not kmh), and as part of the deal, I get a new MOT, 6 months car tax, and a new timing belt bought and fitted.  I'm also going to get a new power steering pump seal kit fitted too. Bought this just before new year, but never needed it cos it was actually the high-pressure hose that was leaking.
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Can't wait to get my hands on it, and not far too drive back home either.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkwebdesign.net/lsocbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=93&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;temple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:12 pm (GMT 1)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Sorry to hear about the write-offs guys.  Those photos look very much like how my first Soarer came to an end (it was white though) and my airbag didn't deploy either.  Once the rear end goes, you need to be a rally driver to keep it on the road.  I did a lot of soul searching after that and decided to get another, I don't regret it at all.  I'd definitely go for a 4 litre.
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